Tuesday, June 14, 2011

Jack Creek Cemetery Clean up

Awesome day!  Approximately 30 members of the Lambert Family made an all day outing of cleaning the Jack Creek Cemetery where William Carson Lambert is buried.  It was a great day, hard work, good times, wonderful family!  I am pretty sure he would be proud of his family!  The cemetery was totally covered in vines and under brush.  Some if the brush was 2 inches in diameter (TREES)  You could not get to any of the graves in the cemetery so we just started chopping, clipping, weed eating and we finally found the graves.  You really should take a trip there one day,  call me I will meet you there!  I love to go.

Yep someone was in there chopping away to get this area cleared out......


Yes this is where William Carson Lambert is buried and it is before the crew arrived to work!

A girl on a mission, my granddaughter helping clean  the cemetery of her great great great grandpa!


Some of the cleaning crew at William Carson Lambert's grave 2010.  Clark Rhyne and his family.



Catie, she was putting out bread crumbs (I mean ribbons) so the crew could find their way to the cemetery, yes it really is hard to find and if you don't know where you are going you could get lost in them there hills for a long time!!!!

Amy and Lisa Lambert at their great great grandpa's grave.  They worked hard swinging axes and pulling vines and we were so glad to have them there for the day.

I guess I am a sucker for the old days.  I love to go to Nashoba to visit this little old forgotten cemetery where my great grandpa is buried.  Once you make it to Antlers and you think you have gone to the end of civilization, you just keep on going.

Now I have to think about it this way,  I was told that William Carson did not like being around a lot of people and that he loved being out in the hills.  So when I travel there I think about what it was like when he lived there with his kids, one of which was my wonderful grandpa.  I was given directions and Ron and I headed out to see if we could find it and we drove and drove and we were in the sticks (the movie deliverance comes to mind) and finally we see a car.  I said lets ask them if they know where it is and Ron is like....they wont know.   God was with us and this nice young man says "sure I know where it is, follow me".  We do and we start to worry when he pulls off the road (one lane, dirt) and opens a gate to a pasture.  We follow, and we come to the edge of some woods, we go down a small hill, over a creek and begin to come up to the top of the hill.  (Yes we are still worried)  Finally we come to the top of a hill and see nothing but a wall of woods and brush and a man on a horse.  We get out and stomp around in the brush and finally we find William Carson Lambert's grave.  I was so excited!  That was my first trip.

I must mention that William Carson Lambert buried his wife and one son in Greer County Oklahoma in the Brinkman Cemetery in 1909 and then traveled all the way back to Nashoba with the rest of his kids and he remained there until his death in 1922.

Well after talking to some family and finding out more directions.  We leave the cemetery (oh yea you need a truck big time) and we go the way that we assume they would have drove the wagon to bring Grandpa to his final resting place on this earth.  It wasn't a road, it was barely a trail but we go on and we pass cattle, and all kinds of wild life and low and behold we end up at the river in the near vicinity where grandpa raised his kids. (The Old Marley Fish Camp) Where my grandpa was raised, the river where they probably bathed, fished, washed their clothes, the woods where they probably hunted their food.  We got out and walked the river and listened to the wildlife and just went back in time to where that old mountain man raised one of the most awesome men that I ever knew, Chester Reed Quincy Lambert (my grandpa).  That man must have been great because he passed down some awesome traits to my grandpa on to my Dad and right on down the line. 

I have heard some stories from other family members that I will add later in this blog,  I hope I didn't bore you but if you ever find the need to clear your mind and go back in time, give me a holler and we will take a trip to Nashoba Oklahoma USA!!!

Chester Leon Lambert & Jimmy

I love this picture of my Dad, he was always working on something. 

Lambert family - miscellaneous photos

Grandpa (Chester Reed Quincy Lambert) holding Chester Leon Lambert,  must have been Easter of 1932. 

Looks like Joe (?) getting Chester Leon Lambert ready for some big event.  What a couple of handsome guys!

Lola Lambert holding Tommy, Ruth Lambert holding Allen and Naydene Lambert holding Jimmy, summer of 1952.

I am betting some of you know these guys.  Pretty Cute!  Allen and Jimmy Lambert.

Mary Lee Lambert Swearengin and Patsy Ann Lambert, taken in Choctaw Oklahoma 1958 or 1959.


Lambert Family

This is the best copy I have of this picture.  :-(   Looks like Art in uniform, Grandpa next to him, and Joe to the far right.  Leon in front of Art, Grandma next to him holding Mary, Betty in front of Joe and Wayne in the very front.  I have no idea of the date.

Art, Leon (Chester) and Joe Lambert


This picture is pretty cute!  L to R   Arthur (Art) Chester (Leon) and Joe Lambert.  I cant tell you where it was taken but it must have been taken in the early fall of 1931.

Chester Leon and Arthur William Lambert

Looks like two proud Daddy's showing off their boys!  Chester on the left holding Jimmy Wayne and Art on the right holding Tommy......must have been June or July of 1952!

Monday, June 13, 2011

Find A Grave

This link will take you to find a grave.com where you can become a member and look up cemetery records for your family members.  If there is no record and you know the cemetery you can request a photo and someone will go to the cemetery and post a picture of the marker for you.  You cad add the family member if they are not listed.

This is a very useful tool for doing research.....

Death of Phillip Postelle, Son of Francis and VIrginia, Grandson of Vessie Lambert Postelle

Mr. Philip Postelle

As originally published on Wednesday, May 27, 2009.

Mr. Philip Nolan Postelle, 70, of Walkersville, died Friday, May 22, 2009, in Adams County, Pa., while piloting an ultralight aircraft. Born Aug. 17, 1938, in Denver, Colo., he was the only child of the late Francis and Virginia Hentschel Postelle.
Phil was a mathematical scientist and owned a computer consulting company in Rockville. He later moved to the Emmitsburg area where he enjoyed being an owner of the Emmitsburg Antique Mall. He was a licensed pilot, a member of the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association since 2004 and was an avid model aircraft builder. He spent many hours studying and reading anything to do with aircraft and flying.
Phil is survived by his former wife, Linda Atkins Postelle of Singapore; three children, Karen Postelle Bowman and husband, Stephen, of Singapore, Holly Noel Late and husband, Michael, of Thurmont, and Andrea Lynn Postelle of New York; and three grandchildren, Robert Nolan Fritts and Shaun Darling Fritts, both of Thurmont, and Breanne Leigh Bowman of Singapore. He leaves behind many friends and associates and wonderful memories of days spent flying.
There will be no visiting or calling at Robert E. Dailey and Son Funeral Homes, P.A., 615 E. Main St., Thurmont.
A service will be held at 5 p.m. Thursday, May 28, at Emmitsburg Presbyterian Church, 415 W. Main St., Emmitsburg, MD 21727 with Pastor Joel Hawthorne, Montgomery Hills Baptist Church, Silver Spring officiating.

Letter to Helen Brownd from Francis Postelle October 13, 1969

Dear Mrs. Brownd

Thank you for your recent letter of inquiry about Lambert Family information.  Hope this chart will be of some help.

I'm still very much interested in information concerning this family.  My mother died last year in Oklahoma City and she inspired me to do much of the research that I did do.  Her youngest sister, Loyce Lambert Elliot, lives in Tulsa, Okla and she is very much interested.  But our source of further research seem to be very limited.  I'm grateful that you are searching.  Perhaps you have access to records that I never located.  And hopefully you are a better trained researcher.

One of my disappointments was that I was never able to trace farther back than Jeremiah Lambert and Sarah Cagle who were married in 1820.  As you see from the chart they were in Gwinnett County Georgia in 1820.  He was 20 and she was 22.   Later records indicate he was born in Georgia in 1800.  But I'm not sure of his parentage.  I've guessed his father was John Lambert of the 1790 Georgia census but I have no proof of that.

The name Lambert has been popular.  It may be found in Colonial days records in South Carolina, North Carolina, and some of the New England states.  I'm sure I'vs seen it in England, Ireland, France (in books or other media which I've researched).  The original nationalithy is unknown to me.  But I have a feeling that it was France and probably the Alsace-Lorraine area which is near Germany.  Probably they were Calvinists who fled to England and Ireland as did the Postelle ancestors who were Hugenots.

Now for some personal data.  I'm 54.  My wife and I have just returned from 3 weeks with our only child (Phillip age 31) his lovely wife and 3 little girls in Silver Springs Maryland.  I'm retired from the Air Force and am in the Real Estate business here in Lakewood (a suburb of Denver).  I have a niece who lives there in Tempe.  She is my sister's daughter.  She is Mrs. Alice (Taylor) Griggeory, 3802 B Black Canyon Highway.  (Probably this is not Tempe.  But I know they lived in Tempe at one time).

Hope this info will be of interest and some help.  My records are not well organized.  And I'm a bit rusty about what I do have since I have not been active in research for several years.  But I'm interested and will be grateful for your information.  Probably can furnish more details too.

Sincerely,
Francis Postelle

Sunday, June 12, 2011

Letter from Helen Brownd to Francis Postelle September 20, 1969

Dear Mr. Postelle,

I have been trying for many months through relatives to get your address ever since tow old letters of yours dated 1959 were sent to me.  I too am working on the Lambert Family tree, thought only a short time.

My mother in lay is Susie Ann Lambert Brownd, the youngest and only living child of the second marriage of David C Lambert and Nancy Ann Chaney.  Her son, Shannon is my husband.

I would like to know how far back you have traced the Lambert's, I want their English ancestors if you don't already have them as my mothers people are English and I already have a researcher working on them and want to trace the Lambert's too.

Will you please write and let me know what you have and also what you would charge for copies of material I don't have.

Hope to hear from you very soon.  Enclosed a stamped self addressed envelope.

Sincerely
Helen Brownd

Letter from Francis Postelle to Wilma Wogatzke October 14, 1969

Dear Mrs. Wogatzke,

I know it has been a long time since you wrote to me about the Lambert Family.  Somehow I couldn't bring myself to think much about family history until very recently.  My mother was extremely interested and she died a little over a year ago.  A bit of emotion on my part.  But I am very much interested in the family history and now I can get back to it again.  My sources of research material are very limited here.  While we were in Washington D C there was a lot of archives plus the Library of Congress

Your cousin Helen Brownd wrote very recently and I am answering her letter today also.  i am sending her a copy of this family chart also.   Hope it will be of some interest and maybe help to you also.  As you see I was never able to document any information earlier than Jeremiah Lambert and Sarah Cagle.  There were Lamberts in Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and several of the New England states.  Feel sure that if one could go back far enough there was on Lambert family.  Some seem to have come from England.  And some from Ireland to America.  Probably England and Ireland were interim homes.  I believe they went to England and Ireland from France, probably near Germany but I have no proof of that.  I doubt very much that they were originally Irish.  The strong religious convictions seem to be related to the Calvinist and to fundamentalist groups which eminated from the area in the south of France and Germany.

My research has been dormant for many years.  After we left Washington DC in 1961 there has been little opportunity.  We spent 2 years in Colorado Springs and over 3 in Oslo, Norway, 1 in Syracuse NY and we have bee here for the past 2 years.  I retired from the Air Force on October 1, 1967 after a little more than 32 years.

I'm delighted to find that some others are interested in the family history.  Perhaps you have information and sources to help enlarge the history.  And you are probably better informed on how to do research than I ever was.  Please keep up the interest and be assured of my assistance with whatever material I have accumulated or may yet uncover.  My files are not very well organized, but I do have a lot of details,  This chart is the summary.

Thanks for writing and please accept my apology for the long delay in replying.

Sincerely
Francis B Postelle

Letter from Wilma Wogatzke to Francis Postelle June 7, 1969

Dear Mr. Postelle

I hope this reaches you, I got this address from Helen Brownd.  She is the daughter in law of Susie Lambert Brownd, the youngest daughter of David Cagle Lambert and Nancy Ann Lambert.

My father was Leonard Pressley Lambert and my mother Opal Faye Lambert her married name is Rutledge.

When I started getting interested in the family tree I saw your letter at Helen's.  Mrs. O'Dell had sent it to her.  I was sorry that nobody had followed through with it.

Did you get anywhere with your search for ancestors.  If you did get anything printed I would interested in buying a copy from you.  If you didn't get anything I would like for us to help each other in the search.

Please let me know if you would like my family information, I would really like to see us get together a Lambert family tree.

Sincerely
Mrs Wilma F Wogatzke

Letter to Vessie Postelle from Francis Postelle May 28, 1961

Dear Mother

We returned from our trip on Friday nite.  This was a short trip in time but we covered quite a bit of ground.  We stayed overnight at Jasper, Georgia which is the place where your Great Grandfather Jeremiah Lambert spent the last 30 years or more of his life.  While we were at Jasper we met and had a nice visit with a second cousin of yours.  His name is Will Lambert and he is 75 years of age.  he is a watch tinkerer, spent all his life there and has repaired watches as a sideline.  Taught it to himself.  He had spent a lifetime as a stonemason.  He lives just about a mile from the fine deposit of Georgia Marble.  He had worked all his life with that beautiful marble.  He is the grandson of Joseph Lambert and Joseph was the brother of your Grandfather David Cagle Lambert.

Will Lambert gave us the name of a cousin of his in Ringold, Georgia and we drive about 75 miles to see her.  She too is 75 years old.  Her name is Mrs. Amy Cowart and her maiden name was Brannum.  Her mother and the father of Will Lambert are brother and sister.  So she too is your second cousin.  She has the bible which belonged to your great grandfather Jeremiah Lambert.  It is about 3 inches  thick and about 7 inches wide by 9 inches long.  I examined it very carefully and am convinced of its authenticity.  It had a lot of information in it of interest to me about the Lambert Family.  The bible was printed in 1829 by H & E Phinney Cooperstown NY  There was a note in it which said that it was bought about 1830 (who wrote this is uncertain).  Here are the entries:

  1. "Jeremiah Lambert and Sarah Lambert were married the 17th of February 1820
  2. Mary Panter Lambert was born the 6th of December 1820
  3. Elijah Lambert was born the 14th of June 1822
  4. David Cagle Lambert was born the 29th of April 1824
  5. John Lambert was born the 12h day of June 1826
  6. Wilson Lambert was born the 2nd day of March 1828
  7. William Jerry Lambert was born the 27th day of June 1830
  8. Joseph Lambert was born the 28th day of April 1832
  9. Sara Queen Lambert was born the 4th day of May 1834
  10. Rebecca Linzia Lambert was born the 21st day of September 1836
  11. Robert Lambert was born the 24th day of July 1838
  12. Samson Haygood Pinckney Lambert was born the 4th day of February 1840
  13. Clark Montgomery Lambert was born the 1st day of August 1842
Deaths
  1. Elijah Lambert died the 25th day of August 1824
  2. Sara Queen Lambert died the 14th day of November 1838
  3. Robert Lambert died the 27th day of September 1838
  4. Clark Montgomery Lambert died the 28th day of April 1843
  5. Sara Cagle Lambert died the 14th day of October 1875
  6. Jeremiah Lambert died the 21st day of September 1879
Other information which Mrs. Amy Cowart had stated that Jeremiah Lambert was a Primitive Baptist Preacher.  This fits with other information which I have found.

Mrs. Cowart remembers visiting your grandfather David Cagle Lambert when she was a small girl about 8 or 9 years of age.  Her parents lived in Alabama and they visited your grandfather in Winston County about 1894 or 1895.  At that time she said he was living in one house and his wife was living in another a short distance away.

Found an appraisal of the property owned by Jeremiah Lambert at the time of his death.  Among other things he owned lot number 196 in the 12th District which consisted of 155 acres of land.  His son Joseph acquired most of his fathers things when they were sold by the administrator of the estate, Mr W R Allen on 3 May 1880.

Joseph Lambert died on 14 November 1913.  He was a staunch foe of slavery and he was in the Union Army.  He left instructions that he be buried with his head to the North.  His grave and that of his wife who is buried beside him are the only ones in the cemetery at County Line Church Cemetery in Pickens County, Georgia who face to the south.  All others face east as is normal.  The grand children of Joseph Lambert (Will Lambert and Mrs. Amy Cowart) both stated that Joseph gave the land for the church and cemetery.  This church is about 3 miles west northwest of Jasper and about a mile northeast of Philadelphia Church.

Pickens County is a pretty place, but it is a poor county for farming.  It is hilly and lots of timber.  The valleys are rich, however.  The hillsides are red clay where they are exposed.  The people are still very much rural.  Believe there were very few slaves there when the Civil War started.  It is unsuited to large scale farming.

Know you would have enjoyed seeing the country and visiting with the distant relatives.  Maybe you can sometime.

We are very pleased that you are continuing to do all the things that you are supposed to do.  And I know you will continue to get to feeling better if you will continue all the parts of your prescription.  I'm enclosing a card which you might find valuable to review at least once a week.  And above all things, continue to do all these things.

I am very much opposed to your trying to keep children there at home.  It would be too much for you.  But I do think that baby sitting for a few hours at a time would be a good thing for you.  You could build up a trade in a little while.  You must require that those for whom you babysit come and get you and return you home.  Dont take any assignment for more than a few hours at a time and dont take any assignments which would require that you do any dish washing, cleaning or the like.  Simple babysitting for a few hours in the morning, afternoon or evening while the parents are away.  Think about this and let us know your reaction.

Give our regards to everyone there,
Lovingly
Virginia, Sonny I & II

Census 1910 taken April 15 Buffalo Township Latimer County Oklahoma

Lambert, William C                       Head of Household
Lambert, Isiakiah                          Son
Lambert, Sistie                              Daughter
Lambert, Enoch E                         Son
Lambert, John C.                          Son
Lambert Benjemin B                     Son
Lambert, Chester R                      Son
Lambert, Fannie L                        Daughter         3 yrs old       Born Oklahoma

Info from Francis Postelle

Mrs Ora E Smith 400 Wilson Street, Brownwood Texas has a bible which belonged to her grandmother Elana Frances Knowles Cook Jones Olds.  The bible is fairly old, having been printed in London, England by G.E. Eyre and W Spottiswoode Warehouse 189 Fleet Street, London in the year M,DCCC,LIV (1844) 

Inside the cover is written in ink "James E Cook" "Elana Frances Cook her book" and "Mary E. A. Jones was born Aug 22, 1864"  In pencil is written thereon "William H Jones was bornd July 1st AD 1862.  The pencil is a different hand from either the recording of birth of Mary E. A. Jones or the notation about James E and Elana Frances Cook.

A. On the next page  is inscribed:
     1.  "James E Cook and Elana F Knowles was married July the 17 1856" (in ink)
     2.  "James E Cook departed this life May 17 1860" (in ink)
     3.  "Richard H Cook was born Aug 1 1858" (in ink same handwriting as #2)
     4.  "William H Jones was bornd July the 1th AD 1862"  (in pencil)

B.  On the next page was inscribed:
     1.  "James E Cook was born A D April 30 1827"  (in ink)
     2.  "Elany F Cook was born June 11, 1834"  (in ink)
     3.  "Richard Hiram was AD August the 1, 1858"  (in ink same handwriting as #1)

C.  Inside the next to last page is in ink  "M E A Jon "

D.  On the last page is inscribed in pencil  "James E Cook and Elana Francis was md in the year of our lord
      1856"

E.  Inside the back cover was written something in ink at one time.  It appears to have been rubbed out.  I
     can make out only "Mary E A Jones"

There is on other writing in this bible except the printed word placed there originally.

The inscription "James E Cook" and "Elana Frances Cook her book" were written by the same person but they are different from any other.

The next inscription "William H Jones was bornd July 1st AD 1862" is hand printed therefore , no clue as to whether it was written bu the same person as any of the other writing.

The next inscription "Mary E. A. Jones was Born Aug 22d 1864" was written by a different person from any of the others in this bible.

A1 and D were written by the same person.
A2 and A# were probably written bu the same person who wrote B2
A3 was written by a different person than any of the others.

B1 and B3 appear to have been written by the same person
B2 and A2 and A3 were written by the same person

Thus we seem to have at least 7 different persons handwriting.

Letter to Ora Smith from Francis Postelle January 31, 1960

Dear Cousin Ora

Your grandmothers bible came several days ago along with the two photographs.  Your kindness in sending them is highly appreciated and it has been helpful as well as very interesting to get to examine each of them.  Now about the bible, I find that there are 7 different persons handwriting which are in it.  One of the 7, I'd guess was that of James E Cook, another Elana Frances Cook, another her step-mother Mary E. Knowles, and one probably your father and another likely was your aunt (my mothers mother).

Oh yes, another thing which I believe I found is that the initial for my grandmother was as follows Mary E A Jones instead of Mary D A Jones.  Under a magnifying glass the E shows up pretty clear.  Another interesting find for me was that the middle name of Richard H Cook was Hiram like his grandfather and like he appeared in the 1860 census.

Now I am convinced that the dates on the photos are as follow:  The first date on each one is when Perry Studio was founded and the second date is when the photograph was made.  I did find the Williams family right next to the William B Knowles family in Kaufman County, Texas in 1880.  They had two boys and twin girls at that time.  So in 1891 the same six are in the photo.  Here is the census information for the year 1880.  Kaufman County, Texas Beat No. One  #363
Williams, Christian E      38 M  Farmer   Born  MO   Dad born  VA   Mom Born KY
Williams, Mary F           39 F   Wife                Tenn                   VA                     NC
Williams, William B       12 M  Son                  MO                    MO                    Tenn
Williams, George C       11 M  Son                  MO                    MO                     Tenn
Williams, Martha R          6 F   Daughter          MO                    MO                     Tenn
Williams, Terese E           6 F   Daughter          MO                    MO                     Tenn
Swindell, James R          20 M  Nephew           MO                    Tenn                    Tenn

Looks like the William B Knowles family and the Christian E Williams family came to Kaufman County Texas at the same time.  Also looks like a good chance that Christian E Williams and Mrs, Sarah J. Knowles (wife of William B Knowles) were brother and sister and we know that William B Knowles and Mrs Marry F Williams (wife of Christian E) were brother and sister.  So their children were double cousins if I guess right.

Because the only way we have of knowing the names of these people is in the 1880 census we can not tell the names of the three younger Knowles children in the photo of that family.

And we still do not know what happened to Richard Hiram Cook.  Since he was at least 20 years old (i living) when his half brother (your father) and other relatives came to Texas.  It is entirely possible that he would have been married and remained somewhere in Missouri.  But I just happened to remember that he was only 12 years old (if living) at the time of the 1870 census and he was not with his mother (at that time her name was Olds) when that census was taken.  So it seems that the best guess is that he died between 1860 and 1870.

So it seems that we are not much closer to uncovering anything about your grandfather Jones.  At the moment I an without another untried clue.  But we wont give up and something may yet develop.

I will be mailing the bible and pictures back to you in the next day or so.  We will be forever grateful to you for letting us see them.  The enclosure with this letter is to reimburse your for your expense in mailing them to us.

I almost forgot to mention that we found the pension record her in the national archives for James Monroe Knowles, brother of Elana Frances Knowles.  He served in the Union Army in 1863, 64 and 65.  (His brother Micajah Knowles served in the Rebel Army)  He continued to live at Patton, Bollinger County, Missouri where we found the Hiram Knowles family in 1860.  James M married there and had seven children.  They were Ovanda M born 1872, Lenora D 1870, John V 1876, Alvaretta 1878, Reuben W 1882, Henry M 1887, and Elsea Ann 1895.  He was born in 1842 and died Feb 20, 1902.  Actually he was a half brother of your grandmother.  He was a full brother of William B Knowles and was a year younger that his sister Mary F Knowles.  Williams is mentioned as being in the photo discussed above.  He died at Patton, Bollinger County Missouri.

Thanks very much for your kindnesses and do let us hear from you further.
Best regards from your cousin,
Francis Postelle

Letter to Francis Postelle from Ora Smith January 17, 1960

Dear Cousin Francis

I sure was proud to get your letter and the record of all your findings  I had forethough enough and had found out things about my fathers people but my mother said very little about them and I never dreamed I would want to know about them in later life.  When I visited your mother and all the folks last summer I got some old letters that they has which my father had written to his sister when we were children.  His baby sister was your mothers mother as you know.  I was so happy to get them, I had never seen fathers handwriting as he passed away when I was five years old.  I am the only one of my family living now.  Do you think if some one was to go to some of the places they lived that they would find out any more about them.

I am sending you the old Bible that I have, it was my grandmother Jones or that is what my mother told me, so take care of it and send it back to me when your through with it.  Keep it as long as you need it.

Also I am sending the pictures of both familied, the uncles and aunts I have written on them all I know if you can send them back when you are through with them also.  I hope they will be of some help to you.

Yes I had a wonderful Christmas!  I went to California to see my two granddaughters that live there.  I went with my daughter and her husband.  Both families are going overseas in February one goes to Kinowa and the other one goes to Spain.

Well as there is no other news I guess I will close, thanking you again and hope you will learn something from the pictures and Bible that I mite have overlooked.

With best of wishes for a good new year,
Your Cousin
Ora Smith

Letter to Ora Smith from Francis Postelle January 12, 1960

Dear Cousin Ora
Enclosed is a copy of a rescent letter which I sent to my mother.  Mrs Vessie Postell of Oklahoma City.  You will find it interesting no doubt because of the information about your fathers mother.  Ellana Frances Knowles Cook Jones Olds.

Most of the information which we have found has been from the US Census records.  The information which you sent from the records in your family bible were of tremendous help.

The census takers were human beings, and as such were subject to errors.  The listing of the one year old son of Ellana Frances as Hiram K in 1860 instead of Richard E is no doubt one such error because the record in your bible is in my opinion the correct one.  A fond grandmother or grandfather could easily have given the wrong info to the census taker.  Especially since the grandfather name was named Hiram.  As a matter of fact it seems likely to me that the second name of Richard H Cook was Hiram for his grandfather.

I am very sorry that we havent been able to find a lead about your grandfather Jones.  But we cant seem to get anywhere on it.  The name Jones appears so often in the census records that it is very difficult to track.  And so many of the county records of Missouri have been destroyed by fires about the time of the Civil War that we are stopped from that angle.  At this time the outlook is very dark.  We need some new clues, but havent much in the way of ideas of where to start.

You speak in your letter of last August to me about an aunt and uncle named Williams.  Was this Mrs. Williams possible the sister of your grandmother?  If so she must have been Mary F Knowles, Elender C Knowles, Sarah E Knowles or Permelia O Knowles (all of whom I refer to in my letter to my mother).  It might help of you could tell me which on married Willams.  And it would be a lead to know the married nnames of the other sisters of your grandmother.

Hope you had a good holiday season and that htis new year will be kind to you.
With warm personal regards, your cousin
Francis B. Postelle

Resident may hold record......

Chester R and Supreme Lambert and their five children, Art, Joe, Leon, Betty (Inman) and Wayne, moved into a home on 2 acres in the 4200 block of S High in 1938.

There were only a few other houses around at the time.  There were dirt roads and few things around, many years later more houses and businesses moved in.

Grandmother worked the farn and took care of their children.  Grandfather worked at his garage, known as Lambert's Garage.

In January 1942 their sixth child, Mary (Swearengin) was born.  Grandfather died in 1973 and Grandmother kept the house but would stay with her daughter, Mary, and family.  In 1981, she sold the house, which was moved to another loacation in the southeast part of the city.  Grandmother lives with her daughter, Mary.

Grandmother was 81 years old in March.  During the day she keeps her 20 month old great grandson.  The house may be gone but the memories still linger.

This article was in the daily Oklahoman.....the record holder lived in the ares for 73 years.    Lots of wonderful times at 4201 S High Street!!!!

Francis and Virginia Postelle

Letter from Francis Postelle to Ora Smith October 24, 1959

Dear Cousin Ora

Your kindness in sending the information from your family Bible has been appreciated by me for a long time now.  Please forgive me for waiting almost two months to thank you and let you know that it has arrived.

Mother surely did enjoy your visit with her and other members of the family.  It was one of the big events in her life.  She had not been back to WEaldron Arkansas since she was a small girl if I am not mistaken.  Anyeay, your visit was the finest tonic she could have had.

I have had very little susccess in locating any additional information concerning your grandmother or grandfather Jones.  The prime problem is that I cant locate them.  My mother thinks that your father (and her mother) were born at Thomasville, Missouri.  Do you know where your father was born?  I know it was in Missouri but dont know where there.  It appears to me that your father and his sister (my mothers mother) were raised by their uncle William B Knowles.  Here is the entry from the 1880 census, Kaufman Co. Texas

Knowles, William B    32 M   Farmer  Born Tenn   Dad born Va   Mother  NC
Knowles, Sarah J        30 F      Wife              MO                    Va                KY
Knowles, Othela V       5  F     Daughter        MO                    Tenn             Mo
Knowles, Albert F        4  M    Son                MO                    Tenn             Mo
Knowles, Enoch H        2 M     Son                MO                    Tenn            Mo
Knowles, Gilbert E  2/12  M     Son               Texas                  Tenn             Mo
Jones, William H         17 M     Nephew         MO                    Unknown      Tenn
Jones, Mary E             16 F      Niece             MO                    Unknown      Tenn
Knowles, Mary E        60 F      Mother           Tenn                   NC               NC

So William B Knowles came to Texas after his son Enoch H was born in Missouri in 1878 and before his son Gilbert E Knowles was born in Texas in 1880.  If I could find where in Missouri that any of the children of William B Knowles was born it would be a big help.  By any chance are any of the 3 Othelia V, Enoch H or Albert T Knowles - still living?  If not, they might have a child living who would know where in Missouri that they were born.  I think this would give me the lead I need to find the name of your grandfather Jones and the name of the father of William B Knowles.  It is evident that William B Knowles was the brother of your grandmother, Eleanor Francis Knowles Cook Jones.

Both you and mother speak of the Williams family, but I can't figure where they tie into the famil.  Were they related to your father?  Must have been since your mothers name wa Lula Jane Capers.

And have you eveer heard anything of a half-sister of your father whose mane was Sarah?  Mother seems to think that there was one.  Another point that makes me curious as what happened to Richard H Cook who probably was the first child of your grandmother.  Mother seems to think also that your grandmother Jones died while your father was small.  Do you have any date or knowledge of where she was buried?

With the very warmest personal regards, Your cousin,
Francis B. Postelle

Letter from Ora Smith to Francis Postelle August 11, 1959.....This letter contains info about my Great Grandmother Mary Jones Lambert

Dear Francis
I have just received from your mother the historical gatherings pertaining to the Lambert Family, also the bit of Knowles-Jones information all of which is of much interest to me.

Also note your request for the Bible which I have, due to the paper being very brittle and the back off, I want to send it however I am sending the information here-in, and assure you, it is as written in the BIble.

Ellana F. Knowles was born June 11, 1834
Ellana F. Knowles and James E. Cook were married July 17, 1856
Richard H. Cook was born August 1, 1858
James E. Cook died May 17, 1860
William H. Jones was born July 1, 1862
Mary D.A. Jones was born August 22, 1864
William H. Jones died 1894

Ellana was my father's mother and am sure she had several in her family as I have a picture of an aunt and uncle Mr and Mrs Williams that my father spent much time with, sometime just before he married.

There is nothing in the Bible about Grandfather Jones (my fathers father) Ellana Cook was my fathers mother and there was nothing of either of her mother or father.  I was Ora E Jones, my father and your mothers mother (Vessie Lambert Postelles mother Mary Lambert) were brother and sister.

I surely wish I had something to go on about Grandfather Jones but I dont/  Its always to late when we should of learned all these things, we didnt ever think about wanting to know about them.

I have a picture of the Knowles family and the Willaims family that were made at Kaufman Texas, both pictures were made at the same place.  Also there is a date on the 1871 and 1891.  I dont know if this is the year they were made or not, it doesnt say.  Just Perry studia, if these pictures would help I will be glad to send them to you and if you do learn anything about them please let me know.  I surely do thank you for the part your mother send me and if there is anything else you want to ask me please do so.

Love
Your Stranger Cousin
Ora Smith

FLOUR SACK UNDERWEAR

A poem that I have that reminded me of Grandma Lambert, she used to tell me about making underwear and dresses out of flour sacks.

When I was just a maiden fair
Mama made our underwear
With many kids and Dad's poor pay
We had no fancy lingerie.

Monograms and fancy stitches
Did not adorn our Sunday Britches;
Pantywaists that stood the test
Had "Gold Medal" on my breast.

No lace or ruffles to enhance
Just "Pride of bloomington" on my pants.
One pair of panties beat them all
For it had a scene I still recall.

Harvesters were glearning wheat
Right across my little seat
Rougher than a grizzly bear
Was my flour sack underwear.

Plain, not fancy and two feet wide
and toughr than a hippo's hide
All through depression each Jill and Jack
Wore the sturdy garb of flour sack.

Waste not, want not, we soon learned
That a penny saved is a penny earned.
There were curtains and tea towels, too.
And that is just to name a few.

But the best beyond compare
was my flour sack underwear!

Letter to Vessie Lambert Postelle from her son Francis on April 23, 1959

Dear Mother
I have been searching every time I could to find out more about the history of your grandfather and finally I have run into some information which I think you will find interesting.  I found him in Cherokee County, Georgia (about 40 miles north of Atlanta) in 1850.  Next to him lived his father and mother and here is the listing:

NAME                             AGE/SEX   OCCUPATION   BIRTHPLACE
David C Lambert              26   M        Farmer                  Georgia
Mary A Lambert               30  F                                        SC
John C Lambert                  6  M                                      GA
Francis M Lambert             3  F                                        GA
Sarah M Lambert               1  F                                        GA
Jeremiah Lambert             50  M          Farmer                  GA
Sarah Lambert                 51  F                                         GA
Joseph Lambert               19  M                                        NC
Rebecca Lambert            16  F                                         GA
Sampsea N Lambert        10  M                                       GA

So your grandmother was named Mary A and your great grandfather was Jeremiah and your great grandmother was Sarah.  Note here too that your uncle John C was the eldest, your aunts Francis M and Sarah M were next.  The children living with your great grandparents are your great uncles and great aunts.  Note too that your grandfather was born in 1824.  Your great grandfather was born on 1800.

Cherokee County is a long way from Macon Ga where you think that your father was born.  Do you have anything that would show his place of birth?  It is not important but interesting.  Maybe this cousing that you spoke of might have your grandfathers family bible.

I have not found your Lambert family in the 1860 Genes, but they probably had moved and I have just not ran across it yet.  Maybe later, but I did find your grandfathers and Uncle John's Civil War recors and here it is in brief:

David C. Lambert - Private, Captain Ellis Company (later became CO F 45th Regiment Alabama Infantry)  Mustered in with the above company at Blountsville, Alabama, April 10, 1862 age of 38 for a period of 3 years or during the war.  He was captured at Spottlsyvania Coutt Eause (north of Richmond Va) May 9, 1864.  He was exchanged Feb 13, 1865 along with 2051 ohter prisoners of war at James Eater, Geres Landing Virginia.

John C Lambert, Private, Captain Ellis Company (later CO F 45th Regiment Alambama Infantry) Mustered into service with his company ar Blountsville, Alabama, on April 10, 1862 age of 13 for a period of 3 years or during the war.  Captured September 30, 1862 and exchanged October 25, 1862.  Wounded Oct 26, 1862 near Richmond Virginia and wounded again January 16,1863.  He was with General RObert E Lee at the Surrender at Appemattex Court House, Virginia April 9, 1865.

To be continued.......

Evidently your grandmother had died, because we next find David C in WInston County Alabama in 1850.  Next to him lived John C Lambert and family.

Name             Age/Sex    Occupation     Born
David C Lambert  56 M       Farmer         GA
Nancy C Lambert  38 F       Wife           ALA
Eveline Lambert     F       Daughter       ALA
Zedy Lambert     10 M       Son            ALA
Andrew F Lambert  8 M       Son            ALA
Mareda Lambert    6 M       Son            ALA
Clareda Lambert   4 M       Son            ALA
Lemuel C Lambert  2 M       Son            ALA
Claretta Lambert  1/2 F     Daughter       ALA
John C Lambert   36 M       Farmer         GA
Permelia V Lambert 30 F     wife           ALA
Francis F Lambert  6 M      Son            ALA
Nathaniel Lambert  4 M      Son            ALA
Mary N Lambert   Born 1878  Daughter       ALA
Sarah B Lambert  Born 1882  Daughter       ALA
Indianna R Lambert    1888  Daughter       ALA

Believe I had already told you that I found your father William Carson Lambert and his brothers Joseph and David working on farms in Kaufman County Texas in 1850.  Not far away was your mother Mary B Jones and her brother william M Jones living on a farm with their uncle William B Knowles and his wife Sarah J, daughter Othela V, sons ALbert T, Enoch N and Gilbert, and their grandmother (your great grandmother Mary B Knowles)

Mary B Knowles was born in 1820 in Tenn, I found records where David C Lambert Homesteaded on 160 acres of land in WInston County Ala in 1873.  When he submitted the final papers in 1881 he state "Myself, my wife and 8 children have resided and cultiveted the land over since the date of entry in April 1873.  He had on it one dwelling house, one smoke hourse, one corn crib, and one small mill house.

On July 2 1907 a Mr. L J Reed wrote to the US Lead Occices, Washington DC inquiring about some papers on the land.  He said "I bought the land eight years ago from D C Lambert and before I got the patent Mr Lambert died.  Do David C Lambert must have died about 1899 or 1900.  Also note that he (David C) mentions 8 children in his Nove 26, 1881 final papers on the land.  Since he had only 7 at the time of the censis of June 16, 1880 and the youndgest was then one month old, they had another child born in 1881.  These 8 were half brothers and sisters to your father, William Carson.  We knew of 3 full brothers and 2 sisters.  This makes a total of 14 children for David C Lambert, and there may be more.

I am anxious to know what you hear from your Uncle John C Lambert's daughter Anna Lambert Lathm.  Possibly she has her (and your) grandfathers old family bible with family records in it.  If so I sure would like to get a hold of it to copy the information.  Or at least I'd like to get a copy of all the information in it.

You mentioned that your cousin Ora (evidently daughter of William B Knowles) has a bible that had belonged to her grandmother (Mary N Knowles) with family records in it.  I sure would like to get to copy that information.  If she would consend to mail tome by registered US Mail I will pay for it and return it undamaged the same way.  If not, I would a t least like to get a copy of EVERY BIT of the family recorded in it.  Some of it may seem unimportant, but it all adds up.  Will you ask her if she iwll do these things?  And please send me the name and address of both of these cousins.  I might write to them.

I am sending you some copies of this letter which you may want to send and give to your brothers and sisters.  I would type them, but I am swamped with work, I am sending sis a copy too.

I feel that we have not exhausted by any means all the information still available concerning the early Lamberts.  And I have not given up on your grandfather Jones.  The information is available if we can just uncover it.

Some that is in here I think I have alreads sent to you but thought it might be worthwhile to show it all here together.

                         Francis Postelle

Saturday, June 11, 2011

Covering some old ground!

I am going to be posting some old correspondence that was sent to me by Francis and Virginia Postelle.  He did a tremendous amount of research and I would have loved to have walked with him as he did all of it.  I know from visiting with him that he truly loved researching the family history and you can tell it in his letters to others during his research.  I don't know what happened to all of his work that was not passed around since he and Virginia have both left this world.  I found that their only son also died in a plane crash several years ago and I have lost the only contact that I had with one of  Phillips daughters.  I am currently searching for her but it is like a needle in a haystack!!!